The Circus
Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password
(Register)
Tue Apr 30, 2024
Event Dutch National Day
 
Gloom: CLOWN Discord! check out details on CLOWN facebook !
23-Mar-2019 23:28:09
Gloom: https://www.facebo ok.com/groups/clow nguild/
23-Mar-2019 22:31:46
Gloom: Fallout 76 !!!
16-Dec-2018 01:22:10
Lavida: Any Clowns in Lords Mobile?
26-Sep-2018 07:56:39
Romano: Bring In The Clowns!!!
03-Sep-2018 21:37:47
Gloom: Rock ya
06-Aug-2018 16:45:24
Lavida: Hallo everyone long time no see ..
21-Jul-2018 06:15:33
cleo: Damn I miss you all.
16-Jun-2018 03:05:27
cleo: Ah they live!!
16-Jun-2018 03:03:00
Gloom: Here! Very Happy
09-Jun-2018 15:55:06
Shout History
Only Registered Users can Shout
Create/Login
Circus Forums › CLOWN › Enclownopedia › CLOWN Titles
CLOWN Titles
All about CLOWN. Who are we? What do we do? Where have we come from? Why are we obsessed with pie?
Post new topic Reply to topic Printer Friendly Page
<
1 2 3 4 5
>
View previous topic :: View next topic
Author Message
Plague
The True
The True

Plague

Offline

Joined: Mar 18, 2006
Posts: 90
Location: Bottom of a pint, in a pub, somewhere in Wigan, England
CLOWN

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:26 AM
Reply with quote

Ahh, with you now, didn't understand the toon bit, new phrase to me that, so all other charcters on your (UO) account i.e the other 5 can't join the guild? Just so i am clear, as never realised things had changed since UO (still living in the yester years Smile ) as evryone had all the characters CLOWNed in some cases.


_________________
I'm gonna live forever or die trying, failing that i'll just sit there and eat PIE's
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail ICQ Number MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger
Adenas
The Fool
The Fool

Adenas

Offline

Joined: Mar 13, 2006
Posts: 2647
Location: The Tame South
CLOWN
Administrator
Supporter

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 01:01 PM
Reply with quote

The way I understand it is; the other toons (characters) can join the guild but as the person who is clowned is *you* not *your character* there's no point giving them seperate clown names.


_________________
Adenas clownguild.org admin, eater of pies.
WoW: (Retired) Adenas, Tuone, Sain, Niyra
Next MMO TBD.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website Skype Photo Gallery
Plague
The True
The True

Plague

Offline

Joined: Mar 18, 2006
Posts: 90
Location: Bottom of a pint, in a pub, somewhere in Wigan, England
CLOWN

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 01:05 PM
Reply with quote

So my CLOWN title is the same on all 6 characters you mean?


_________________
I'm gonna live forever or die trying, failing that i'll just sit there and eat PIE's
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail ICQ Number MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger
Adenas
The Fool
The Fool

Adenas

Offline

Joined: Mar 13, 2006
Posts: 2647
Location: The Tame South
CLOWN
Administrator
Supporter

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 01:11 PM
Reply with quote

Yeah I think so.


_________________
Adenas clownguild.org admin, eater of pies.
WoW: (Retired) Adenas, Tuone, Sain, Niyra
Next MMO TBD.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website Skype Photo Gallery
Plague
The True
The True

Plague

Offline

Joined: Mar 18, 2006
Posts: 90
Location: Bottom of a pint, in a pub, somewhere in Wigan, England
CLOWN

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 01:20 PM
Reply with quote

Ah right


_________________
I'm gonna live forever or die trying, failing that i'll just sit there and eat PIE's
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail ICQ Number MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger
Plague
The True
The True

Plague

Offline

Joined: Mar 18, 2006
Posts: 90
Location: Bottom of a pint, in a pub, somewhere in Wigan, England
CLOWN

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 01:21 PM
Reply with quote

kk chears


_________________
I'm gonna live forever or die trying, failing that i'll just sit there and eat PIE's
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail ICQ Number MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger
Gloom
The Elder
The Elder

Gloom

Offline

Joined: Mar 17, 2006
Posts: 2321
Location: Clown Town
CLOWN
Administrator
Spirit of CLOWN
Supporter

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:58 PM
Reply with quote

The idea is that its the player behind the toon that recieves a title. All future toons of said player will inherit the title. Toons of said player may have several dif tiles from the past though. We encourage players to surrender all but one title but will not enforce it. Thus, one player=one title, regardless of game or number of toons. It makes more sense really and is a hell of a lot easier to administrate Very Happy

Ringmaster wrote:
CLOWN TITLES

A CLOWNed player has earned the right to his/her very own title.

All titles must be unique - there is a list of CLOWN titles already in use. A title is personal and can not be used by anyone else. A player can only have one (1) title at any given time. Titles can be surrendered/changed, in which case the old title will be free to be picked by another CLOWN.

Although a title is given to a specific toon (the one CLOWNed), all future toons of a player will inherit both rank and title. Thus, new toons in a current or future game will be considered (and ranked, if applicable) as a CLOWN. This way, the community can easily tell which toon belongs to which player.

A title earned in a game can be used by the person behind the character in any other game/context as he/she sees fit, ie as a pseudonym on a forum or in a forum signature.

A titles should follow the standard of "The -insert your thingie here- CLOWN", ie "The Famous CLOWN".

Titles have in the past had no set rules. Thus a few players have earned multiple titles (on different toons). We urge those players to surrender all but one title, but will not enforce it.


_________________


------------------------------------------------- I just love CLOWN! *thud* -------------------------------------------------
Back to top
View user's profile MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Gloom
The Elder
The Elder

Gloom

Offline

Joined: Mar 17, 2006
Posts: 2321
Location: Clown Town
CLOWN
Administrator
Spirit of CLOWN
Supporter

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 01:08 PM
Reply with quote

Plague wrote:
So my CLOWN title is the same on all 6 characters you mean?

If they all were CLOWNed, in the old days, and thus received individual titles - they still have those titles. The multiple titles are still yours to use as you see fit until you surrender them.

As an example, I had 3 titles but have now surrendered all but "The Elder".


_________________


------------------------------------------------- I just love CLOWN! *thud* -------------------------------------------------
Back to top
View user's profile MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Plague
The True
The True

Plague

Offline

Joined: Mar 18, 2006
Posts: 90
Location: Bottom of a pint, in a pub, somewhere in Wigan, England
CLOWN

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 07:08 AM
Reply with quote

Yes, it makes scense, and alot easier to know who controls which players as you will know from the title, no problem, totally accept and agree with that, so if you could change Raven Eve'rot's title to "The True CLOWN" please which is Plague's title also that would be great thank you,


_________________
I'm gonna live forever or die trying, failing that i'll just sit there and eat PIE's
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail ICQ Number MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger
Gloom
The Elder
The Elder

Gloom

Offline

Joined: Mar 17, 2006
Posts: 2321
Location: Clown Town
CLOWN
Administrator
Spirit of CLOWN
Supporter

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:21 PM
Reply with quote

Plague wrote:
Raven Eve'rot

Eh? Never heard of this toon before tbh. Hes not on the official clown title list anyhow. Is he an old UO toon? What was/is his title? I'll add him for historical values.


_________________


------------------------------------------------- I just love CLOWN! *thud* -------------------------------------------------
Back to top
View user's profile MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Blade
The Optimistic
The Optimistic

Blade

Offline

Joined: Mar 18, 2006
Posts: 67
Location: Pie Capital
CLOWN

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 01:57 PM
Reply with quote

I'll aks Plague about that Gloom it was his character, but at the moment he doesnt have any internet, so when i get the chance to speak with him i'll get you an answer my friend


_________________
If This Is Reality Then I Think I'll Go Back To Sleep...
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website ICQ Number MSN Messenger
lallare
The Laughing
The Laughing

lallare

Offline

Joined: Jul 25, 2006
Posts: 48
Location: Stockholm
CLOWN

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 07:51 AM
Reply with quote

I got few other chars other game with clown title but í cant rem them lol Smile
but nice to see i got atleast 2 chars in clown history woohoo Smile


_________________
UO - Boromir Stenyxa
UO - Legolas Longbow
WoW - So Many
Back to top
View user's profile MSN Messenger
Gloom
The Elder
The Elder

Gloom

Offline

Joined: Mar 17, 2006
Posts: 2321
Location: Clown Town
CLOWN
Administrator
Spirit of CLOWN
Supporter

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:21 PM
Reply with quote

*note to self*
"Update Farwan from Fruity -> Worst


[edit] Updated


_________________


------------------------------------------------- I just love CLOWN! *thud* -------------------------------------------------
Back to top
View user's profile MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Adenas
The Fool
The Fool

Adenas

Offline

Joined: Mar 13, 2006
Posts: 2647
Location: The Tame South
CLOWN
Administrator
Supporter

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 07:33 AM
Reply with quote

What's Badger's CLOWN title?


_________________
Adenas clownguild.org admin, eater of pies.
WoW: (Retired) Adenas, Tuone, Sain, Niyra
Next MMO TBD.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website Skype Photo Gallery
Adenas
The Fool
The Fool

Adenas

Offline

Joined: Mar 13, 2006
Posts: 2647
Location: The Tame South
CLOWN
Administrator
Supporter

Post Post subject: Re: CLOWN Titles
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 08:48 AM
Reply with quote

Badger is The Carnal CLOWN.

Zed is The Lazy CLOWN.

Perhaps both should be lazy though, cos I asked them both to post on this thread saying when they were CLOWNed Very Happy


_________________
Adenas clownguild.org admin, eater of pies.
WoW: (Retired) Adenas, Tuone, Sain, Niyra
Next MMO TBD.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website Skype Photo Gallery
<
1 2 3 4 5
>
Post new topic Reply to topic Printer Friendly Page
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Trammel will not be a mirror of Felucca (Some Shmuck)

Hello been a long time... Hello been a long time...
Last post by Adenas in forum Clown Hall on Mon Mar 25, 2019 07:44 PM
1 Replies, 15177 Views

Slinver and Morrianna ... Slinver and Morrianna ...
Last post by Lightrunner in forum Clown Hall on Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:15 AM
6 Replies, 20221 Views

Albion Online Albion Online
Last post by Gloom in forum Clown Hall on Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:33 PM
1 Replies, 11702 Views

No man's sky No man's sky
Last post by Gloom in forum Clown Hall on Tue Aug 16, 2016 07:08 AM
2 Replies, 14081 Views

Overwatch Overwatch
Last post by Gloom in forum Clown Hall on Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:33 AM
0 Replies, 12695 Views

MERRY CHRISTMAS!! MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
Last post by Lightrunner in forum Clown Hall on Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:54 AM
2 Replies, 13870 Views

Re: Wildstar online Re: Wildstar online
Last post by Gloom in forum Clown Hall on Sun Jan 17, 2016 09:33 PM
4 Replies, 18634 Views

Steam group Steam group
Last post by Haegl in forum Clown Hall on Fri Jan 01, 2016 04:07 AM
12 Replies, 29377 Views

Miss you guys! Miss you guys!
Last post by Gloom in forum Clown Hall on Thu Mar 26, 2015 06:13 AM
4 Replies, 19037 Views

Anyone playing Elite:D... Anyone playing Elite:D...
Last post by Baratus in forum Clown Hall on Sat Jan 10, 2015 07:31 AM
0 Replies, 15160 Views

 Bots:
1: Mojeek > Home
2: Google > CLOWN Calendar
3: YANDEX > Home
 Visitors:
001: Circus Pictures
002: Circus Pictures
003: Circus Pictures
004: CLOWN Calendar
005: Circus Pictures
006: CLOWN Calendar
007: CLOWN Calendar
008: CLOWN Calendar
009: CLOWN Calendar
010: Home
011: Home
012: CLOWN Calendar
013: CLOWN Calendar
014: Circus Pictures
015: CLOWN Calendar
016: CLOWN Calendar
017: CLOWN Calendar
018: CLOWN Calendar
019: Home
020: Home
021: CLOWN Calendar
022: CLOWN Calendar
023: Circus Pictures
024: Circus Pictures
025: CLOWN Calendar
026: CLOWN Calendar
027: Home
028: Home
029: Circus Pictures
030: CLOWN Calendar
031: CLOWN Calendar
032: Circus Pictures
033: Circus Pictures
034: Home
035: CLOWN Calendar
036: Circus Pictures
037: Circus Pictures
038: CLOWN Calendar
039: CLOWN Calendar
040: CLOWN Calendar
041: Circus Pictures
042: Circus Pictures
043: CLOWN Calendar
044: CLOWN Calendar
045: Home
046: CLOWN Calendar
047: CLOWN Calendar
048: CLOWN Calendar
049: CLOWN Calendar
050: CLOWN Calendar
051: CLOWN Calendar
052: Circus Pictures
053: CLOWN Calendar
054: CLOWN Calendar
055: CLOWN Calendar
056: Home
057: CLOWN Calendar
058: CLOWN Calendar
059: Statistics
060: CLOWN Calendar
061: CLOWN Calendar
062: CLOWN Calendar
063: Home
064: CLOWN Calendar
065: CLOWN Calendar
066: Home
067: CLOWN Calendar
068: Circus Forums
069: CLOWN Calendar
070: Home
071: CLOWN Calendar
072: CLOWN Calendar
073: Circus Pictures
074: CLOWN Calendar
075: Account Details
076: CLOWN Calendar
077: CLOWN Calendar
078: Circus Pictures
079: Home
080: Home
081: CLOWN Calendar
082: Circus Pictures
083: CLOWN Calendar
084: CLOWN Calendar
085: Account Details
086: Home
087: Circus Forums
088: CLOWN Calendar
089: Circus Pictures
090: CLOWN Calendar
091: CLOWN Calendar
092: CLOWN Calendar
093: CLOWN Calendar
094: CLOWN Calendar
095: CLOWN Calendar
096: CLOWN Calendar
097: CLOWN Calendar
098: CLOWN Calendar
99: CLOWN Calendar
100: CLOWN Calendar
101: CLOWN Calendar
102: CLOWN Calendar
103: Circus Forums
104: CLOWN Calendar
105: CLOWN Calendar
106: Home
107: Home
108: Home
109: CLOWN Calendar
110: Home
111: Home
112: Home
113: CLOWN Calendar
114: CLOWN Calendar
115: CLOWN Calendar
116: CLOWN Calendar
117: Home
118: CLOWN Calendar
119: CLOWN Calendar
120: Home
121: Home
122: Circus Pictures
123: Circus Pictures
124: Circus Forums
125: Circus Pictures
126: CLOWN Calendar
127: CLOWN Calendar
128: CLOWN Calendar
129: CLOWN Calendar
130: Home
131: Home
132: CLOWN Calendar
133: Home
134: CLOWN Calendar
135: CLOWN Calendar
136: CLOWN Calendar
137: CLOWN Calendar
138: CLOWN Calendar
139: CLOWN Calendar
140: Circus Pictures
141: Circus Pictures
142: CLOWN Calendar
143: Account Details
144: CLOWN Calendar
145: CLOWN Calendar
146: Circus Pictures
147: Statistics
148: CLOWN Calendar
149: CLOWN Calendar
150: Circus Pictures
151: CLOWN Calendar
152: CLOWN Calendar
153: CLOWN Calendar
154: CLOWN Calendar
155: CLOWN Calendar
156: CLOWN Calendar
157: Circus Pictures
158: Circus Pictures
159: CLOWN Calendar
160: CLOWN Calendar
161: Circus Pictures
162: CLOWN Calendar
163: Home
164: CLOWN Calendar
165: Circus Pictures
166: Home
167: Circus Pictures
168: Circus Pictures
169: Circus Pictures
170: Circus Pictures
171: CLOWN Calendar
172: CLOWN Calendar
173: Home
174: CLOWN Calendar
175: CLOWN Calendar
176: Home
177: Circus Pictures
178: CLOWN Calendar
179: CLOWN Calendar
180: CLOWN Calendar
181: Circus Pictures
182: CLOWN Calendar
183: CLOWN Calendar
184: CLOWN Calendar
185: CLOWN Calendar
186: Circus Pictures
187: Circus Pictures
188: CLOWN Calendar
189: Home
190: CLOWN Calendar
191: CLOWN Calendar
192: CLOWN Calendar
193: CLOWN Calendar
194: Circus Pictures
195: CLOWN Calendar
196: CLOWN Calendar
197: Circus Forums
198: CLOWN Calendar
199: CLOWN Calendar
200: CLOWN Calendar
201: CLOWN Calendar
202: CLOWN Calendar
203: Circus Pictures
204: Home
205: Home
206: Circus Forums
207: CLOWN Calendar
208: Circus Pictures
209: CLOWN Calendar
210: Home
211: CLOWN Calendar
212: CLOWN Calendar
213: Home
214: CLOWN Calendar
215: Home
216: Home
217: Home
218: Home
219: Home
220: Home
221: CLOWN Calendar
222: Home
223: Home
224: Home
225: CLOWN Calendar
226: CLOWN Calendar
227: CLOWN Calendar
228: CLOWN Calendar
229: Home
230: CLOWN Calendar
231: CLOWN Calendar
232: CLOWN Calendar
233: Home
234: CLOWN Calendar
235: Home
236: CLOWN Calendar
237: Circus Forums
238: CLOWN Calendar
239: Home
240: Home
241: Home
242: Circus Forums
243: Circus Forums
244: CLOWN Calendar
245: Circus Pictures
246: Circus Pictures
247: CLOWN Calendar
248: Circus Pictures
249: CLOWN Calendar
250: CLOWN Calendar
251: Circus Pictures
252: Circus Pictures
253: Circus Pictures
254: Home
255: Statistics
256: Home
257: Home
258: Circus Pictures
259: Home
260: Circus Pictures
261: Circus Forums
262: Circus Forums
263: Circus Pictures
264: Home
265: Circus Forums
266: Circus Forums
267: CLOWN Calendar
268: Circus Pictures
269: Home
270: CLOWN Calendar
271: CLOWN Calendar
272: Circus Forums
273: Circus Pictures
274: Home
275: Circus Pictures
276: Circus Forums
277: Circus Pictures
278: CLOWN Calendar
279: CLOWN Calendar
280: Circus Forums
281: Circus Forums
282: CLOWN Calendar
283: Home
284: CLOWN Calendar
285: Circus Pictures
286: Circus Forums
287: Circus Pictures
288: Circus Pictures
289: CLOWN Calendar
290: Circus Pictures
291: CLOWN Calendar
292: Home
293: Circus Pictures
294: CLOWN Calendar
295: Home
296: Home
297: Circus Pictures
298: Circus Forums
299: Home
300: Circus Pictures
301: Circus Pictures
302: Circus Pictures
303: Circus Pictures
304: CLOWN Calendar
305: CLOWN Calendar
306: Circus Forums
307: Home
308: Circus Pictures
309: Circus Pictures
310: Home
311: Home
312: Circus Pictures
313: Circus Forums
314: Home
315: CLOWN Calendar
316: Circus Pictures
317: Circus Pictures
318: Circus Pictures
319: Circus Pictures
320: Circus Forums
321: Home
322: Circus Pictures
323: CLOWN Calendar
324: Circus Pictures
325: Circus Pictures
326: Circus Pictures
327: Circus Pictures
328: Circus Pictures
329: Circus Pictures
330: Home
331: Circus Pictures
332: Circus Pictures
333: Home
334: Circus Forums
335: Circus Pictures
336: CLOWN Calendar
337: CLOWN Calendar
338: CLOWN Calendar
339: Account Details
340: CLOWN Calendar
341: CLOWN Calendar
342: Circus Pictures
343: Circus Forums
344: CLOWN Calendar
345: CLOWN Calendar
346: CLOWN Calendar
347: CLOWN Calendar
348: CLOWN Calendar
349: Home
350: CLOWN Calendar
351: CLOWN Calendar
352: CLOWN Calendar
353: CLOWN Calendar
354: Home
355: CLOWN Calendar
356: CLOWN Calendar
357: Home
358: Home
359: CLOWN Calendar
360: CLOWN Calendar
361: Circus Pictures
362: CLOWN Calendar
363: CLOWN Calendar
364: Circus Pictures
365: CLOWN Calendar
366: CLOWN Calendar
367: CLOWN Calendar
368: Home
369: Home
370: CLOWN Calendar
371: Home
372: CLOWN Calendar
373: CLOWN Calendar
374: Home
375: CLOWN Calendar
376: CLOWN Calendar
377: CLOWN Calendar
378: CLOWN Calendar
379: CLOWN Calendar
380: CLOWN Calendar
381: CLOWN Calendar
382: CLOWN Calendar
383: CLOWN Calendar
384: CLOWN Calendar
385: CLOWN Calendar
386: Home
387: Home
388: CLOWN Calendar
389: CLOWN Calendar
390: CLOWN Calendar
391: Home
392: CLOWN Calendar
393: CLOWN Calendar
394: Home
395: Circus Pictures
396: CLOWN Calendar
397: Circus Pictures
398: Circus Pictures
399: CLOWN Calendar
400: CLOWN Calendar
401: Home
402: Home
403: CLOWN Calendar
404: CLOWN Calendar
405: CLOWN Calendar
406: CLOWN Calendar
407: CLOWN Calendar
408: CLOWN Calendar
409: CLOWN Calendar
410: CLOWN Calendar
411: CLOWN Calendar
412: CLOWN Calendar
413: CLOWN Calendar
414: CLOWN Calendar
415: CLOWN Calendar
416: CLOWN Calendar
417: CLOWN Calendar
418: News Archive
419: Circus Forums
420: Circus Forums
421: CLOWN Calendar
422: CLOWN Calendar
423: CLOWN Calendar
424: CLOWN Calendar
425: Circus Forums
426: CLOWN Calendar
427: CLOWN Calendar
428: CLOWN Calendar
429: CLOWN Calendar
430: CLOWN Calendar
431: CLOWN Calendar
432: Home
433: Home
434: CLOWN Calendar
435: CLOWN Calendar
436: Home
437: Home
438: CLOWN Calendar
439: CLOWN Calendar
440: Circus Pictures
441: Home
442: CLOWN Calendar
443: CLOWN Calendar
444: CLOWN Calendar
445: CLOWN Calendar
446: Circus Pictures
447: CLOWN Calendar
448: CLOWN Calendar
449: CLOWN Calendar
450: CLOWN Calendar
451: CLOWN Calendar
452: Home
453: CLOWN Calendar
454: CLOWN Calendar
455: Home
Who are you playing with atm?

Yourself
85 %85 %85 %
Others
14 %14 %14 %
Results :: Polls

Votes: 34

Bring in the CLOWNs!
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy
CLOWN: Based on Azul-Carbon theme and related images designed by Jamin